sctroy
May 31 2007, 08:31 PM
I'm not new to bowhunting or archery, but I am only just now thrown into the somewhat modern era of the the sport. This leads me to a question about the sights that seem to be so popular.
Here's my train of thought: In very low light conditions, wouldn't it be harder to see your target with a glowing or lighted pin between your eye and said target?
The scenario: You are in a pine forest. The pines are brown, the ground cover is brown and the deer is brown. It is dusk. A deer walks in with just minutes left until darkness. You can see the deer because your eyes have long been adjusted to the conditions. You pull up your bow to put the pin on the deer and the pin is glowing. Wouldn't your eye adjust to what bit of illumination the pin is giving off causing the deer to vanish? I liken it to sitting in a dark room until you can see objects because you have your night eyes, then striking a match and putting in front of your face.
I guess the flip side would be seeing the deer and not being able to see your pin.
Thoughts?
lugnut
May 31 2007, 08:45 PM
hey troy; i shot a doe a couple of years back right at dark. the kind of dark where you can see the silouete of the deer but can't get your pins on it. i flip on the lighted pin and was easily able to see the deer and the pin.
they make the lighs now that are UV (purple looking) and they don't affect your night vision.
hope this helps you out
silbowhunter
May 31 2007, 08:55 PM
Take a look at Vital Bow Gear sights.
They have a .019 pin with enough fiber optic to keep it glowing until the end of legal shooting hours without blinding you.
Dont even need any kind of artificial light.
And by the way if you find a VBG sight that is a couple of years old that cool looking glow ring wont fit.
Take a guess as to how I know.
http://www.vitalgear.net/singlepin-bow-sights.php
sctroy
May 31 2007, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (silbowhunter @ May 31 2007, 09:55 PM)

Take a look at Vital Bow Gear sights.
They have a .019 pin with enough fiber optic to keep it glowing until the end of legal shooting hours without blinding you.
Dont even need any kind of artificial light.
And by the way if you find a VBG sight that is a couple of years old that cool looking glow ring wont fit.
Take a guess as to how I know.
http://www.vitalgear.net/singlepin-bow-sights.phpI just realized that ring glowed. I shot until dusk tonight and put the bow away in a dark room and said, "Hey, the ring is glowing!" LOL
Yankeeguideservice.com
Jun 1 2007, 06:53 AM
Have your LED (if legal in your state") shine o n the fiber optics, not directly into your sight window and you will have no problem.
Impact barchery collector is about the britest sight made today and if you add the LED, it shines into the fiber chamber, not onto your pins themselves.
Great durrable sight for the money
http://www.impactarchery.com/collector.html
Yankeeguideservice.com
Jun 1 2007, 06:55 AM
Click to view attachmentHave your LED (if legal in your state") shine o n the fiber optics, not directly into your sight window and you will have no problem.
Impact barchery collector is about the britest sight made today and if you add the LED, it shines into the fiber chamber, not onto your pins themselves.
Great durrable sight for the money
http://www.impactarchery.com/collector.html
redruff
Jun 6 2007, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (sctroy @ May 31 2007, 09:42 PM)

I just realized that ring glowed. I shot until dusk tonight and put the bow away in a dark room and said, "Hey, the ring is glowing!" LOL
Join the club...just started shooting with a release and sight this past couple months. Silbow clued me in on some really nice stuff.
Vital gear single angled pin is awesome. Never shot like that with fingers! And added 5 yards.
sctroy
Jun 7 2007, 07:07 AM
I think that deer is dead already! LOL
redruff
Jun 7 2007, 08:43 AM
The problems is that's all theory...when it comes time to put it into practice I tend to miss!
shotgun4972
Jun 7 2007, 12:47 PM
I used lighted pins years ago and they did tend to wash out your view of what was behind them. I've since gone to fiber optic sight pins and found that when it is tough seeing your pins, you probably don't need to be shooting at that time anyhow. Just my 2 cents.
silbowhunter
Jun 7 2007, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (shotgun4972 @ Jun 7 2007, 11:47 AM)

I used lighted pins years ago and they did tend to wash out your view of what was behind them. I've since gone to fiber optic sight pins and found that when it is tough seeing your pins, you probably don't need to be shooting at that time anyhow. Just my 2 cents.

So you've never bow hunted in a thick fog where a fiber optic pin that puts out a nice glow seems to help or would you pack up and go home ?
I dont think anyone here is looking to be hunting after legal hours if thats what your insinuating ?
Kevin
Jun 7 2007, 03:12 PM
I think that with most of the new sights with long strands of wrapped fiber optics, you very seldom need a light. I think like shotgun 4972 in that when I can no longer see my pins with my Vital Bowgear sight, then I would not be able to see a deer well enough to get a good shoit. Then again, my eyes are getting kind of old. I have been really happy with my Vital Bowgear sight. It has 3 stacked pins so that it doesn't block out much of the sight picture. Unfortunatly they no longer make the sight in this configuration. I will admit that I use a light when I shoot an indoor DART system because we are usually standing in the dark shooting at a projection screen. Just my 2 cents.
Kevin
redruff
Jun 7 2007, 06:13 PM
QUOTE (Kevin @ Jun 7 2007, 02:12 PM)

I think that with most of the new sights with long strands of wrapped fiber optics, you very seldom need a light. I think like shotgun 4972 in that when I can no longer see my pins with my Vital Bowgear sight, then I would not be able to see a deer well enough to get a good shoit. Then again, my eyes are getting kind of old. I have been really happy with my Vital Bowgear sight. It has 3 stacked pins so that it doesn't block out much of the sight picture. Unfortunatly they no longer make the sight in this configuration. I will admit that I use a light when I shoot an indoor DART system because we are usually standing in the dark shooting at a projection screen. Just my 2 cents.
Kevin
Was kinda thinking along the same lines. I was turkey hunting this spring in a blind. Legal hours are 1/2 before sunrise. It was dark in that blind!
Kevin
Jun 7 2007, 08:52 PM
Good point Redruff. A turkey blind is a situation where a lighted sight pin may be necessary. Keep in mind that if you would harvest a trophy deer with a lighted pin I don't think it could be entered into Pope and Young because it is considered an electronic device. Maybe someone else could verify that for you.
Kevin
silbowhunter
Jun 7 2007, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Kevin @ Jun 7 2007, 07:52 PM)

Good point Redruff. A turkey blind is a situation where a lighted sight pin may be necessary. Keep in mind that if you would harvest a trophy deer with a lighted pin I don't think it could be entered into Pope and Young because it is considered an electronic device. Maybe someone else could verify that for you.
Kevin
I think your correct Kevin, same is true when using a lighted nock from what I've been told.
lugnut
Jun 11 2007, 10:07 PM
no need for lighted pins for any situation for me. my Q beam light the pins plenty
joke
HOYTHUNTER
Jun 20 2007, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (redruff @ Jun 6 2007, 10:04 PM)

Join the club...just started shooting with a release and sight this past couple months. Silbow clued me in on some really nice stuff.
Vital gear single angled pin is awesome. Never shot like that with fingers! And added 5 yards.
RED- I think you said something, and I know I saw arrows, but that avatar is distracting me from looking at anything else. Who is that?
bigbuckdwn
Jul 18 2007, 10:29 AM
hey im 14..and on my bow i hav lighted pins i think they help ...my cuosin hes like 30 and he doesnt and ..well it was like 2 minutes till drk and there was a buck bout id say 50 yards and so he could see the deer and wen the pins glow the deer is easier to see i think and he shot and hit it in he jaw and we had to track it dwn and i had to kill it ..but i like the glowin pins id recommend hem
BuckTread
Jul 18 2007, 10:59 AM

bigbuckdwn. Yea i definitely think the glow pins help some people..but i also think everyones eyesight is different and thats why some like them and some dont. I cant shoot them because the light makes it really hard to see the deer when its darker but a couple friends of mine swear by them. Im not sure if thats actually why or not but just a thought
bigbuckdwn
Jul 19 2007, 07:18 PM
yea eyesight duz matter well people who can see better could deff. c beter at night..butyea..i meen it helps me but thts me if ur better without them stay at wat u got dnt change.
pruneemac
Oct 22 2009, 01:07 AM
no, they arent that bright, only bright enough to see the pin
at least my hha is
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