The AT'ers have been talking about these and trying em out. I finally talked myself into ordering some. You have to use a drop away rest with em. I use drop away's exclusively so it shouldnt be a problem. What do yall think?
http://www.starrflight.com/

Interesting, let us know how they perform Outlaw.

I can't figure out what the heck FOB stands for...

Fletching Only Better

I tried em. They actually shot pretty well but they seemed very loud. I just don't know if I'm ready to accept them yet. They look so darn funny and take away from the traditional looking arrow. If there is ever a clearance issue (torqued bow, clothing in the way) it's all over for that shot. Thoughts...only thoughts.

I have a friend that knows his stuff, he tried them and said they flew well but about 6" higher than vanes. He is sticking with vanes and I think I will too.

Well I got em todayl. I am currently trading bows with a fellow over on archery talk so I had to unbox the stealth. I slapped on my dropzone and shot a few arrows. It took some getting used to the fob against my jaw but after a few shots I was using it as another reference point. I shot without sights to 25 yards right before dark and I was impressed. I dont know what the other guys were hearing but I didnt hear any noise coming from them. I screwed on an old bear razorhead and as far as I could tell without any sights It flew right with my field point arrow.
As soon as I get the Evotek stalker bow set up I will put them through the ringer to see if they will be worth hunting with.
Later,
Jerry

They have been around for decades. Many, many years ago, people simply added them without removing standard fletchings to help stabilize those older, not straight large cutting fixed heads....

seems like I remember one that slid over the shaft. I also remember a broadhead with a ring, I think it was called the razor ring. I was in Simmons sporting goods in Bastrop LA and they were shooting the razor rings out of an untuned bow. They definately worked but I guess it was hard to convince people they would penetrate through bone. I know I didnt believe it so I didnt buy any.
Those old stabilizer rings didnt go over cause there werent any drop away rests available I believe.

Man I am jonesing for a bow right now. I sent mine off yesterday morning to PA. It will be the end of the week before I get mine.

i'm interested to see how your testing goes with the FOB. i shot a deer a couple of years ago that glanced off of a vine but the arrow still found the deers left lung. the arrow hit the lung and turned and came out right infront of the deers rigt hind leg.

i wonder if one of those things touches something in flight, would you see a drastic change or would it be slight like what i saw with vanes. seems to me because it doesn't give that it would be thrown farther off couse by the slightest touch of something in flight. of course you don't make shots that are so iffy all the time if ever but it's one of those things that i always take into consideration.


let us know how well they do

Lug I was wondering about that also. I think when I get another bow set up I will shoot through some brush on purpose and see.

Update

I set up the evotek and the high country and shot the fob's some more.
They do fly very well. I shot them through some oak bushes. The bush with small 1/4" and thinner limbs and branches, the fob cut the branhes into and continued on to the target unaffected.
I also shot into a bush so thick I barely could make out the target 5 yards on the other side. I tried to center a 1/2" thick branch. I hit the branch slightly to the right off center. The fob popped off upon impact and the shaft continued on to the target and hit about 2" to the right of the aim point. the fob was unscathed. I popped it back on and shot some more.
I am still not sold on them against my jaw. I shot some of my blazer vaned arrows after shooting the fobs for a while and they feel so much better at full draw. Right now I am leaning towards my vaned arrows because of this.
Jerry

Hey guys, resurrecting an old thread. I have been trying them the last week or so and I like them. But it has made me question my draw length because the FOB is further back than the vanes. However, I went to two different Mathews dealers and they both advised against moving my draw length so I am staying where I am. I think the touch to my chin has actually made me think about my shot more and make sure I have the same mechanics each time.

I paper tuned a bare shaft and then started really shooting the FOB, then I shot a vaned arrow and cracked the FOB. Both the FOB and the vaned arrow hit close to the mark (hence the cracked FOB) so I am not convinced there is much of a performance issue with field points. I am not sure that crack affects the flight but have to think it does. Anyhow, I put on a slick trick and was disappointed at how it flew with the vaned arrow (I paper tuned that arrow too), it flew better with the FOB but I am thinking I better not make any judgments until I get some new FOBs that aren't cracked. I like them but like Jerry said, they are a bit harder to get used to because its back at the end of the arrow and touches your chin. Any other thoughts?

Beleive I'm stayin with feathers and biscuit

Yah TH if you shoot a biscuit this won't work for you, I had to try them though...I like em so far...

I have been using the FOB for years now. I myself, will never fletch another arrow for myself. I enjoy everything about them. It barely touches my jaw at full draw. And like you said, its another way of me knowing I got my anchor set. Paul is a great guy who stands behind his product and makes sure the customer is happy.

I killed a nice buck last year. When you get a pass through on an animal, it is so nice to get down and find this reference point laying on the ground to mark the spot. Alot of times, when you hit the ground, things look alot different then what they did up in the tree. Easy to pick up where you need to start tracking your blood trail.

Good luck to you!

Thanks NKY, what broadhead do you use? I tried a Slick Trick and it didn't work for me. I just ordered some Rage 2 blades to try so we'll see. If that doesn't work, I took a shot with a Montec and it flew nicely. I am also starting to make my own lighted nocks...too many addictions! Oh yes, Paul has been great.

When I first bought them I was shooting the NAP Nitron Fixed blade. Since, I have went back to machanicals and have been shooting the Grim Reapers. I have been, nothing but happy with these. I know people talk about them being noisy. You do hear a bit of noise as the air passes out the back of the FOB. But, if you have someone shoot at a bag target and put yourself in a safe position out in front. You will see, you hear no noise as the arrow approaches the target.

I hold them in high regard!

I have seen people talk about the FOB's on other sites. Most say something like "i would never shoot anything that looks like that." But i am trying my hand at building arrows now and i think i will give them a try. See how they fly compared to my fletched arrows.

Wouldn't hurt to try.

Howdy all,

I herd there was some FOB talk here so I thought I would join in if that is OK? I promise NEVER to try and sell anything. Just answer questions and help.

My background is Mechanical Engineering. I had spent the better part of 12 years working at a rocket ranch (Hughes Missile Systems). I am also lucky enough to say I have not missed an archery Elk hunt in close to 30 years now. I am even luckier to say it has been with the same group of friends. My thoughts regarding bodies in motion come from crunching the numbers. My thoughts regarding arrow flight comes from hunting and the frustration of getting a broadhead to fly.

Regards,

Welcome to ya -- Paul
Great Group[ of fellas here (excludin Me , of course)

I tried them...and they weren't for me. I'll stick with my flex fletch flash vanes instead

I liked them and tried them, in fact, Paul helped me get my drop away working properly. I ultimately decided to stick with vanes this year because I just couldn't adapt to the FOB touching my chin because it it farther back on the arrow. They did fly well though.