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lugnut
i was looking in the new bass pro shop mag. yeterday and saw the lone wolf sit and climb climbing stand. those dudes are pricey. i was wondering if anyone here has one? it looks to me, from the picture, that it's kind of flimsy looking. it just doesn't look stable. however; i know you can't tell much by looking at a picture in a magazine.

just interested to hear from an owner
silbowhunter
Not a owner yet but will be soon.

They have straps that go from the plat form (bottom ) to the top half to help hold it steady and in position.

I have had a Summit Cobra for about 6 years and last year it developed a faint squeak from the bottom half.

The Lone Wolf platform is one solid piece of aluminum so there is no chance of it squeaking.

Only thing neg I have ever heard about a Lone Wolf is the seat isn't the most comfortable.
lugnut
QUOTE (silbowhunter @ Jul 5 2007, 11:12 AM) *
Only thing neg I have ever heard about a Lone Wolf is the seat isn't the most comfortable.



that could be a major draw back. especially for you since your used to using the summit witch is the most comfortable stand i've ever sat in cheers.gif
trapper
Funny you brought this up. I pretty much decided to buy one and have been watching ebay for a bargain. I would like more opinions though.
silbowhunter
QUOTE (lugnut @ Jul 5 2007, 11:57 AM) *
that could be a major draw back. especially for you since your used to using the summit witch is the most comfortable stand i've ever sat in cheers.gif






Might keep me awake better. biggrin.gif
I would rather have a hard seat then a stand that squeaks.

My summit has the seat that you blow up and has a bladder in the top and back, they stopped using them for some reason a few years ago.
cybersniper
They are very popular here in WI where they are made. They are nice stands and hold their value better than any brand I've seen. It will be tough to find one cheap on ebay. Good Luck!!

Cyber biggrin.gif
lugnut
hey trapper; you should do what some people do down here in florida and just steal one instead of looking for good buy blowup.gif
trapper
QUOTE
hey trapper; you should do what some people do down here in florida and just steal one instead of looking for good buy

That isn't just a Florida thing lug. That is why I want a lightweight climber. Somebody "borrowed" one of my hang on stands and I am starting to wonder if they will bring it back by bow season.
mbowerman
Lug they are very stable very light and well made. They are about 18lbs vice 21 lbs for a Summit Viper. I have used the Lone Wolf but I own 4 Summits. I have mentioned in other posts that they sure are pretty though. I think that because they cost about $100.00 more than the Summit that some folks equate that to them being a better stand.

I also found that their nylon belt which grasps the tree has a bad tendency to grip the bark while climbing up. Making them a little less comfortable for this old guy to use.
lugnut
how is the size on the sit and climb version. looks pretty small from what i can tell, which ain't much.



i'm just trying to justify spending another 100 dollars for a stand that looks likes it cost a lot less to make. i know there is a draw back on this stand, just like everyother treestand ever made, i'm just trying to find that draw back
cclingma
I've gotta pipe up here. I have the hand climber version...the platform is the same as the sit and climb but the upper is a little different. Two of my buddies have the sit and climbs. We all love these stands. I agree with the LW not being quite as comfortable as a Summit as I used to have a Summit but what it lacks there it makes up for with very compact carrying, silent use, a solid molded aluminum platform, and absolutely no pins or bolts to deal with. They setup and backpack so nice and quiet. They fold down flat agaisnt your back for packing therefore don't catch on limbs and brush as bad as many others do. They have a awesome bow holder molded into the platform although you have to purchase the rubber grommet for it extra should you choose to use a grommet (that really agravated me). I feel these stands are top notch. Something to think about, I've read that the original owner of Lone Wolf Treestand Co. just sold out. Makes me wonder if there will be a change in quality in the near future. I fear it could be in the wrong direction as profit margins seem to have that affect. Wow, working night shift makes me type too much. bag.gif
trapper
I don't think you type too much. I don't know about lugnut but that is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. Pros and cons from people who have actually use different stands. Anybody else with an opinion please chime in.
archer109
Andre just sold out to work more on his new bow and to hunt more. Lone Wolf is now owned by some former employees. I don't think nothing will change, great stands and well worth the price
Flint
I own a LW climber, not the sit & climb and absolutely love it. Owned a Summit before the LW and got tired of having the cable hit the hollow tubing while setting it up to climb a tree. Was like a gong going off. The LW has none of that, extremely quiet. The climber seat isn't for all day sitting and I have never used it for that. My archery hunts are in the morning for a little before work and in the evening for a little.

I pretty much agree with everything "cclingma" posted above. Picked my LW up on ebay in the off season a few years ago for $170 :) Had the gromit and shoulder straps too.
lugnut
good info; anyone else got any thoughts on the LW stands
p&y predator
A little late chiming in here but I added a Summit replacement seat from Cabelas to my Lone Wolf. Now I have the best stand available! IMO. If you want a picture of the LW sit and climb with the summit seat on it let me know and I will post a pic. The seat is about 2-1/2" thick and the back is around 20" high which helps keep the sound of my jacket against the bark quite. The buckles on the replacement seat undo easily and are rubber coated to keep them quite.

Steve
BobB257
QUOTE (lugnut @ Jul 13 2007, 04:31 PM) *
good info; anyone else got any thoughts on the LW stands

Lug,
I bought the LW hand climber this year and it is what they say...Quiet... That is everything to me. I hunt with a partner who's Summit can be heard from where ever he is setting it up. The diff. in noise from the hollow tube and cable with jacket VS. the cast base and tree belt(Looks like Harley Belt Drive) is huge. The seat is not a Lazy Boy by any means. I don't get to do all day sits so it works for me.
I will say that I am leaning toward selling mine to buy the Alpha Assault Hang on so I can use the LW climbing sticks. I saw a video by a guy who uses this set up and I think it will work as well or better for my needs.....IE I want to hang two stands so my son can sit with me. He could carry his own stand no problem at 11 lbs each, and I can set them with the sticks.
I feel the LW climber is solid as a rock in the tree and climbs like a rocket. I do use a harness as with any stand, on the way up and in it when I reach the 20' height I like to set at.
The LW packs flat and light. Way less sticking out and back compared to the Viper.
Hope this helps.
lugnut
QUOTE (BobB257 @ Mar 8 2008, 09:32 AM) *
Lug,
I bought the LW hand climber this year and it is what they say...Quiet... That is everything to me. I hunt with a partner who's Summit can be heard from where ever he is setting it up. The diff. in noise from the hollow tube and cable with jacket VS. the cast base and tree belt(Looks like Harley Belt Drive) is huge. The seat is not a Lazy Boy by any means. I don't get to do all day sits so it works for me.
I will say that I am leaning toward selling mine to buy the Alpha Assault Hang on so I can use the LW climbing sticks. I saw a video by a guy who uses this set up and I think it will work as well or better for my needs.....IE I want to hang two stands so my son can sit with me. He could carry his own stand no problem at 11 lbs each, and I can set them with the sticks.
I feel the LW climber is solid as a rock in the tree and climbs like a rocket. I do use a harness as with any stand, on the way up and in it when I reach the 20' height I like to set at.
The LW packs flat and light. Way less sticking out and back compared to the Viper.
Hope this helps.




thanks bob; i bought one last year after i posted this. i used it pretty much all season and was able to kill 2 does with my bow, one of which came from my LW sit and climb. i agree with your post 100%


cloquet
I have owned several Summit stands in the past. I have also owned the LW sit and climb and I currently own the LW hand climber. The Summit is more comfy, period. Also has great customer service. If you try to add the Summit seat to the LW you will find that it won't work as well as you thought because the LW bracket is closer to the tree so you can't really slouch into the seat. In talking to a LW Rep. last year he told me that the new owners are planning some changes to make the LW sit and climb more comfy. The LW belt system is heaven and earth better than a cable. The Summit climbs minimum of 8 inch trees. Sometimes you find a tree in the perfect spot and after climbing you find the taper has reduced the diameter so the stand just won't grip the tree. The LW will easily grip 6 inchs. That is small enough for me, but 8 inchs just didn't do it. Also if you want there are extra long belts for the really big trees, so the LW will climb both smaller and larger trees. The bow holder on the LW will not work on Mathews bows because of the string suppressors. Not a problem, easy to add a bow holder but extra $. The LW hand climber is easy to set up for sit and climb use with the addition of a nylon belt to sit on, it can then be used to tie the two section together. Very solid and stable, and QUIET. Great stand and I have enjoyed great customer service. (They changed cam designs and shipped me the new style.) The LW cost more and are worth it. Also they hold their value better if you decide to sell. Good luck, Tom.
pinwheel
QUOTE (trapper @ Jul 7 2007, 07:26 AM) *
I don't think you type too much. I don't know about lugnut but that is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. Pros and cons from people who have actually use different stands. Anybody else with an opinion please chime in.



Todd, you get back up my way, you can give my hand climber a run up the tree if you'd like.
lugnut
i do recall having one problem with my sit and climb this past season. the bar you sit on will not stay tight. i tighten the bolts on both ends of it and sit on the bar one time and they're loose again. i'm not sure what the problem with it is, but it is very aggrivating to me. i have to care two wrenches with me in my pack
Aussie_Dave
I tend to see more deer in my Lone Wolf hand climber than the Summit Broadhead I used to own. Reason...I kept falling asleep in the Summit.

Our hunting here in Oz is a little different to yours I have noticed, I don't tend to sit in a stand all day. I will hunt a scrape line etc for several hours at a time after patterning Fallow deer or will sit over a Sambar wallow morning or evening. It was for this reason alone that I needed a stand that was light and compact to carry (sometimes 2 - 3 miles), quiet to set up and didn't creak or pop when sitting over Sambar.

Try one Lugnut, I wouldn't part with mine. In fact I am considering several hang ons for the rut.

Cheers, Dave.
trapper
QUOTE (pinwheel @ Mar 9 2008, 07:33 PM) *
Todd, you get back up my way, you can give my hand climber a run up the tree if you'd like.

Thanks Pinwheel. Do you have the lonewolf or the summit? I bought a lonewolf handclimber in the fall but I am always open to trying others. If I like another better I can hand my old one down to my son. He is about old enough to hunt by himself now.
pinwheel
QUOTE (trapper @ Mar 10 2008, 06:37 AM) *
Thanks Pinwheel. Do you have the lonewolf or the summit? I bought a lonewolf handclimber in the fall but I am always open to trying others. If I like another better I can hand my old one down to my son. He is about old enough to hunt by himself now.



I didn't realize you bought a LW. Yeah, that's what mine is. All my other climbing stands are API
p&y predator
Here's the pics Lug. This seat made a world of difference for me. I could sit still for hours once I made the switch to the Summit seat. You'll notice how wide the straps are, they no longer dig through the seat and into your legs. The buckles have a thin rubber coating and they are pretty quite. The only complaint would be that the seat is so thick it can get in the way when you are climbing, however by pushing it up it wedges between the sides of the stand and is a minor inconvience. Yo can also adjust the buckles to even out the seat.


LSmountainman
I sent Lone Wolf an email about packing a stand around elk country, this is what they said:

We would recommend the assault hang-on with either a 3pc of climbing sticks or 4pc. The assault is the lightest hang-on we offer at 10#. The 3-pc climbing sticks will get you approx. 15ft.; the 4-pc approximately 18ft. The sticks will nest on the platform for easy transport. You can always leave your stand up and pull the sticks down so no one could hunt your set-up.
drahthaar
That is what I bought. The assault. It says 8.5 pounds in their adds. I use screw in steps, can't wait to set up over a wallow this year.
LSmountainman
QUOTE (drahthaar @ May 6 2008, 03:55 PM) *
That is what I bought. The assault. It says 8.5 pounds in their adds. I use screw in steps, can't wait to set up over a wallow this year.


I am really thinking strongly about getting the assault. I don't believe I can use screw in steps on the National Forest...but I should be able to pack the climbing sticks around.
silbowhunter
QUOTE (LSmountainman @ May 6 2008, 05:02 PM) *
I am really thinking strongly about getting the assault. I don't believe I can use screw in steps on the National Forest...but I should be able to pack the climbing sticks around.



Your correct Lance it's the same way on the Shawnee national Forest here in S. IL.
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