Guys I was doing a little testing with my fletching today, I have my blazers about an inch from the end of the arrow but the right edge of the vane is not adhering well, so I am thinking of backing the vane off a bit, any problem with having the blazer 3/4" from the end of the arrow?

As long as it doesn't interfere with your anchor piont (hit you in the face) you will be fine. The further back the more stability vanes will give you in theory...

I never saw any difference between my AAE 4" and Blazers as far as shooting. Broadheads or field points noticed no difference in my shooting. With the price of a bag of AAE plasti fletch vanes and how easy they apply not to mention how often I refletch I'm sticking with my AAE's. They are a little tougher to apply to the small diameter AXIS arrows though.


Long story short. Backing the vane back will help flight but I'm not sure how that's going to help get the right edge to stick better? Got any pics...

Yep there they are...

The first is the proposed new spot to put the fletch


Here is the leading corner, I have the front or top adjustment on the bitz just a bit to the right of the line to get some helical

Lance I was playing around with my new Bitz while I am waitng for my wraps to arrive. I have the right helical clamp and when I was clamping a Blazer in it I noticed that the right side was up like you showed in picture. Went on AT and did a few searches and came up with a few threads that were helpful. The main thing is do keep adjusting the Bitz until the blazer lays flat. It took me several trys but the Blazer is laying flat and centered on arrow shaft now. I figured if it lays flat now it should when I glue it. I had mine set 1 inch from the end of arrow as that is how all my old arrows were.

Hey guys, I am not receiving RDHC notifications when you reply to this thread, anyhow, Tom do you have any pics of what your bitz looks like? Where do you have the knob adjustments? Or do you have them on the lines with the right helical clamp? It is cold here so maybe I am talking the clamp off before the glue has time to dry, maybe I should do this at room temp.

I wonder now if I should have gotten the right helical clamp...Tom, if you do have detailed pics of your set up I would love to see them. Thanks

Steve with the 4" vanes, are you using the right helical? Also, got this response on AT regarding the blazers:

our shop has had nothing but trouble with the 08 blazers. With our volume to fletch we switched to the AAE Max Hunter and they go on great and fly with fixed heads even better

Anyone out there using quik spins?

Lance I am uploading pics to Photobucket as I type. As soon as they finish I will post them for you.

I just put one of my 4" dura vanes in the clamp without glue to see how it looked with the wraps, looks good. I had problems with my bitz last year, that's why I sent it back...Steve, can you post a couple pics of your set up again that shows what clamp you use and how it is adjusted? I am using Gold tip arrows. I remember the last time I used blazers they didn't stick well, maybe there is an issue as that guy on AT said...

Thanks Tom, in keeping with the "blazer won't stick" theory, one of the blazers I fletched yesterday didn't stick, I just checked it out...I still think I had better fletching results when I used the AZ ez fletch. those vanes were centered and never came off...

I have a left helical clamp. Left or right really doesn't make a difference with modern compound bows. I found my set up on ebay for a good deal and snatched it up. My Mathews dealer has all left helical clamps with their Bitz's. You do have to tighten up your field tips from time to time as they can loosen up after hitting the bails a few times with left helical. I put a pretty hard twist on them, as much as those skinny little knitting needles will let me.

The Gold Tips fletch really nice with the Bitz. A few of my buddies shoot them and I fletch their arrows. They lay much flatter on the thicker shafts, compared to my AXIS shafts they are much easier. I'll try to find those pics I posted before...

Here they are....

The blue marks and writting on the jig says "AXIS MAX" That's as far as I can go with the adjustment and still keep the AAE's flat on the shaft.

Here you go Lance.

Bottom Dial


Top Dial


Another of Bottom Dial

Damn Tom that thing is shiny!

Tom, you have both dial lines to the right? What helical clamp are you using? Left helical?

I 1st got it last Friday and haven't put any glue to it yet. I guess you could say it is still a virgin. As soon as the wraps come it will be put to use.

The clamp is Right Helical. From what I read on AT you just adjust which ever way so fletch is centered and lays flat on shaft. The clamp still has helical in it even though I have the settings to the right. I guess I won't know for sure until I glue one on.

I just made some adjustments, does this look like enough twist? I might be able to move the bottom dial to the right a skoche. I am still arguing with myself on what clamp to get, helical or keep the straight. Also, I know last year when I passed through my antelope, the 4" vanes didn't come off...let me know what you think of this set up.

bottom (maybe move it to the right a bit

top

it looked like a left helical in the photo...was just curious

You're probably not going to get much more than that with Blazers. They should be fine, just shoot them and see how they do. Sometimes I think archers tend to way overthink this stuff. We can be a finicky bunch.

Example; I just bought my buddies new Primos bow sling from him because he had to have the other camo pattern. Saved me $10. lol

Glue them on like that Lance (if they are flat on the shaft) and I bet they'll shoot excellent.

You could try moving it to the right just a little and see how the blazer sets on shaft. Remember you are not going to notice the offset or helical as much on a 2 inch blazer compared to a 4 inch vane.

Isn't that the truth. Lance Steve is right try shooting them and see how they do. I guess that is the advantage of having your own fletching jig, if they don't work the way you want them you can tear them off and try something else.

What me overthink? NAHHHHHHHH. I think I will fletch up an arrow with these settings and shoot it against a 4" vane...like you said try it out...can you say obsessive compulsive?

I believe obsessive compulsive behavior goes hand in hand with archery.

I shoot 4" straight fletched duravanes and group very well to 75 yards.

To me, I see very little to no difference in my groups one fletching to the next........
That being said, because Blazers are harder to fletch, sometimes come in with a silicone coating, I don't shoot them personaly.

I just sent my bitz back for the right helical, if I can't get the to work well I will go back to 4" and forget it. I called Bohning Friday morning and left a message for someone in sale (per the operator), his VM said he'd return calls by the end of the day but guess what? He didn't call back! I read something on AT that said some of the 2008 blazers were having issues but who knows...