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Hamm
Just wondering if there's any official scorers on the site that could help me out? I finally got around to scoring some of the sheds I found this year and I'm not sure how to score a couple. Actually it's a set. The G2 and G3 basically originate from the same point on the mainbeam and I'm not sure if I should take the third mass measurement there or not. I'll post some pictures to help illustrate what I'm talking about.








Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
buckmaster14a
I'm not an official scorer but i do see 1 problem with ur tine labeling.

in ur fourth picture, you mis-labeled ur g1, the g1 is ur brow tine ( The tine by your hand. )
Eastky Bowhunter
That shed some strange stuff going on. The g-2 shares a base with a abnormal point.

PM Canis latrans or wapiti. Both are B&C scorers.

Hamm
QUOTE (buckmaster14a @ Dec 3 2008, 07:24 PM) *
I'm not an official scorer but i do see 1 problem with ur tine labeling.

in ur fourth picture, you mis-labeled ur g1, the g1 is ur brow tine ( The tine by your hand. )

Good catch! Thanks.
Captiveone
An official scoring on this one would based on what the other beam looks like. If both beams have points that share a common base, then both shared points count as typical points and the h3 is taken where you note on the pics. IF, howeverr, the left beam does not have g2/g3 as points with a shared base... one of the two points ( g2/g3) would be considered atypical, and the h3 would be taken where you now note the h4. The real h4 would be moved down between the real g3 and g4. rolleyes.gif
Hamm
Thanks Captiveone. That makes sense. Here's both sides together.





I think they could be scored as typical points, right?
Captiveone
Yes.. coolsmiley.gif
Canis latrans
Part of what interests me about antlers is the variations that are encountered in them. This set piques my interest.

The guidelines measurers are to follow to determine typical and non-typical points is based on the spacing and alignment of the points along the top of the beam. In this case the third point on each side does not appear to be coming off the top of the beam but rather, in the case of the right antler at least, it seems to be off the inside edge of the beam along with the fifth point further up the beam. It would be easier to make a more accurate assessment if the left antler had not been broken.

As such, I feel that the third point and the fifth point on the right antler as well as the third point on the left antler are actually non-typical points. As such this would cause the H3 to be taken between the second and third points or the third and the fourth points on the right antler whichever is the smaller measurement, and the H4 between the fourth and fifth points or the fifth and sixth points, again whichever is smaller.

Many people would argue that these are typical points and by calling them non-typical would severely hurt the overall score of the deer. Maybe, maybe not.
I look at those points as an enhancement of a spectacular animal. If someone wants to call them this, that or something else will not detract from the animal.
I try to follow the guidelines that are established to determine the relative ranking of an animal in relation to others because I am interested in them not to appease some ego.
Canis latrans
Rather than edit my previous post I will add another post to this topic.

That is an awesome set of sheds. I would be curious to know some of the numbers from them. Beam length and lengths of some of the longer points would be appreciated.

There is a records keeping organization for shed antlers of deer, elk, moose and caribou from North America.

Link here: The North American Shed Hunters Club
Hamm
Thanks Canis latrans. I've been to that website before but I never joined the forum. I guess I should go straight to the source for an official ruling.

I agree with you that whether or not they are counted as typical points won't take anything away from the sheds. I'm guessing they would score a lot better if they were counted as typicals but that doesn't matter. I really wish he hadn't broken off the rest of his mainbeam on the left side. It would really have been a sweet set then. But even as is, they're still probably my favorite set.

When I score them, I'll get you some numbers. It will be a little while though, I'm going to be away from home for a couple more weeks.
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